Host: Brian McLaren
Center for Action and Contemplation
“Learning How to See” is a podcast produced by The Center for Action and Contemplation (CAC), an educational non-profit introducing seekers to the contemplative Christian path of transformation. Season one of “Learning How to See” features Brian McLaren, a pastor and leader of the emerging church movement, in conversation with Richard Rohr, a Catholic priest and writer, and Jacqui Lewis, a Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) pastor and author. The three friends from wildly different backgrounds talk us through 13 biases that prevent us from seeing what is really in front of us.
The podcast began after the 2020 election, and it is unabashedly progressive, but the biases cut both ways. I find them convicting as they help me to see my own blind spots. Season two was not my favorite, but season three begins with the compelling episode “Christianity is Many Things,” featuring a conversation between McLaren, Christian historian Diana Butler Bass and Mike Petrow, a member of the CAC staff and spiritual director. Informed by McLaren’s new book, Do I Stay Christian?, season three gives us language and categories to help us understand the growing divides in the church, and to clarify what is at stake as we lead in the body of Christ.